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Old 10-20-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default 74ls20

The days you could run to the local store and pick up a 7420 are definitely over. How sad. No Kenbak programming this weekend. I ordered several 74**s online and they will probably arrive on Wednesday.

The LS versions are 0.52 a piece and so I simply had to order another $ 20 of stuff I do not really need to prevent the $8 shipping. But I was good: I didn't end up with 50,000 LEDs.
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Old 10-20-2007, 11:00 PM
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But I was good: I didn't end up with 50,000 LEDs.
Too bad. Better luck next time!

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Old 10-31-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Everything works

To make a long story short: see the attached picture of IC25. The problem had nothing to do with a faulty 7420 as I mistakenly claimed before. It really is this simple. Only some people (Geoff) find this faster than others.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:18 PM
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Hmmm, that looks familiar

Congratulations, I'm glad you got it running. What are we up to now, three running Kenbak-1 Series-2 machines? Four, including Grant. That makes us a more exclusive group than owners of original Kenbak's
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:35 AM
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To make a long story short: see the attached picture of IC25. The problem had nothing to do with a faulty 7420 as I mistakenly claimed before. It really is this simple. Only some people (Geoff) find this faster than others.
I bet you felt like yelling, laughing, and crying all at the same time when you found that. Were you studying the trace layout of the board to debug the circuit and see the lack of a solder joint by accident?

So, have you run any of the examples from the manual yet?

Grant
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:05 AM
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Default Finding the error

I suspected the IC52 and I replaced it with the one in IC77. Then the problem of all the LEDs being lit constantly was gone, and I wrongly concluded I found the answer. But it just accidentally worked because I took out IC77. When I put in a new 7420 at IC77 it was back.

Since I swapped IC25 and IC41 before (with the 7400 from IC99 remember), the only thing I could think of is that IC25 was upside down which can easily be detected by checking the voltage at 7 and 14. Only then I saw 1.5 V at pin 14 of IC25 and started disassembling the machine.

Warned by Geoff, I carefully checked the board after soldering and back then I found two similar incidents. But apparently overlooking a third.
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:13 AM
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Default Assembler

So exactly how do I go about using AS? I want to write a program to calculate E (Euler's constant). The series converges rapidly and you only need to maintain the sum and the term.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:06 PM
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I'm a little confused, is it working yet or are you still having problems?

What operating system are you using? Linux/Windows/OSX?

The version of AS on the internet does not support the Kenbak. I downloaded his source and added the Kenbak myself. If you want to compile the C source code yourself I can e-mail you that. Otherwise I can compile a binary for you.
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:05 AM
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Default Finding the error

I suspected the IC52 and I replaced it with the one in IC77. Then the problem of all the LEDs being lit constantly was gone, and I wrongly concluded I found the answer. But it just accidentally worked because I took out IC77. When I put in a new 7420 at IC77 it was back.

Since I swapped IC25 and IC41 before (with the 7400 from IC99 remember), the only thing I could think of is that IC25 was upside down which can easily be detected by checking the voltage at 7 and 14. Only then I saw 1.5 V at pin 14 of IC25 and started disassembling the machine.

Warned by Geoff, I carefully checked the board after soldering and back then I found two similar incidents. But apparently overlooking a third.
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